Is The SDA Church Babylon?
Is the Seventh-Day Adventist church Babylon? The short answer is NO WAY!!!!! This question was one of the
questions that really troubled me and motivated me to do further research. I did not want to end up like most Sunday
worshipers that are shown the truth then agree Saturday is the Sabbath and the correct day to worship. But they
choose not to switch days because it would be to hard, inconvenient, or they have so many friends and activities at this
church that they have been going to all their lives and their parents and grandparents have been going to all their lives.
Matthew 7:8,9 "For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and
cups: and many other similar things ye do. And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that
ye may keep your own tradition."
Some say Revelation 18 is talking about the SDA church. Well when you first start reading the chapter, wow it does
seem like its talking about the SDA church, and if you stop reading it after the first 8 verses then yes i would believe its
talking about the SDA church. But if you read on its talking about Kings of the Earth and merchants weeping and
mourning over the great city being on fire and it talks about the ships not being able to go to the great city's port and
the sailors and traders were crying when they saw the smoke from far off. Then they say what city is like this great
city. They are sad because they got rich off this city of capitalism, this city that would buy from all over the world.
Now does any of this sound like the SDA church? NO WAY!!!! The SDA church doesn't have ports and not that
many people are getting rich off of her, maybe a few but not many at all. If our churches caught fire today and were
totally destroyed life would go on. By 1-2 weeks people would have forgotten all about our 15 secs of fame on the
news. Most people I talk to ask what church I go to and I reply the Seventh-Day Adventist church. Just about every
time they say whats that? Or if they don't say anything its because they don't want to be rude by not knowing what it
is. So NO, the world wouldn't be heart broken if the SDA church was burning.
Now what does the bible tell us what the future Babylon means. We all know that Babylon doesn't exist anymore. So
what is John's dream refer to when he says Babylon the great has fallen. Babylon means apostasy, confusion, and
rebellion. In the Bible you can find the definition in these texts. Gen. 10:8-10; 11:6-9; Rev. 18:2, 3; 17:1-5
Now we know Babylon means apostasy, confusion, and rebellion. Reread Revelation 18. Now does this sound like
the United States of America. The founding fathers founded America on religion. God started America to continue his
plans for the second coming of Jesus Christ and to get freedom for his people from the Catholic church so that the true
gospel could be spread quicker without persecution. God is mentioned everywhere on USA documents, our money,
our legal buildings, and our court rooms we swear on a bible, well we use to. Now we are making it legal for
homosexuals to get married, we are taking God out of the pledge allegiance. How many abominations do you think the
USA has done in our patient God's eyes. We are a Christian nation but now we are letting the small minority change
everything God has setup. Why do you think we are getting record breaking natural disasters. Satan has been given
more and more power over us as a warning sign to God's flock and to the world. It almost feels like the 4 angles
holding back the 4 corners of the Earth are starting to slip. The time of the end is right now. Soon we will see a
national Sunday law. Christians are going to get fed up with all the disasters and the stock market going down and
possibly crashing. The Christians of the world are going to take a step back and say OK, whats going on here? They
are going to realize what creeping compromise has done to them and how far away from God they have become.
Then the Catholic church is going to make a suggestion to make everyone go to church on one day so that God will fix
our problems. Since the majority go to church on Sunday then that will be the day that the law will fall under. Yes
their will be Seventh-Day Adventists that will agree with the situation or not agree but don't want to flee or break the
law so they will go along with it. Their will probably be whole SDA churches that will go along with it. But the church
as a whole will not bend knee to the catholics and the Sunday law. Also in vice versa some Catholics will see this law
for what it is with other fellow Sunday worshippers and for the first time they will keep Saturday the Sabbath holy.
My question to you is, If you leave the SDA church where will you go? Will you be like I was and just stay home and
hide from the problems? Will you go find another church that is an offshoot of the SDA church? The world isn't
perfect. You will never meet a perfect person on Earth. No matter where you go you will find corruption. The SDA
church is God's Remnant church. Yes it is Lukewarm and yes it is in danger of being spewed out of God's mouth.
But if you leave it to the corruption that is in her then you allow the devil to win. God lead me to the bible and in the
bible I found that in Exodus no matter how bad the Hebrews were Moses and Aaron did not flee from them to follow
God by themselves. No they stayed and battled the Devil head on. This is what we need to do. In a loving way we
must stay in the church and help remind her what she was founded on and point out all the creeping compromises that
are happening. We must expose the lies and stand up for God's church. I refuse to let God's remnant be railroaded by
a minority of people that have other things in mind for God's church. No where in the bible do you see leaders of God
leaving his people to the wolves. They stay and fight and endure God's punishments that he inflicts on the guilty. I
don't want to face God in the judgement day when he asks me why I ran away from the fight? Why did I leave his
small children to the wolves in sheep's clothes? I want to face him and be confident saying I did my best to fight for
you lord, I may have failed but I did all in my power to fight Satan with the Holy Ghost.
questions that really troubled me and motivated me to do further research. I did not want to end up like most Sunday
worshipers that are shown the truth then agree Saturday is the Sabbath and the correct day to worship. But they
choose not to switch days because it would be to hard, inconvenient, or they have so many friends and activities at this
church that they have been going to all their lives and their parents and grandparents have been going to all their lives.
Matthew 7:8,9 "For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and
cups: and many other similar things ye do. And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that
ye may keep your own tradition."
Some say Revelation 18 is talking about the SDA church. Well when you first start reading the chapter, wow it does
seem like its talking about the SDA church, and if you stop reading it after the first 8 verses then yes i would believe its
talking about the SDA church. But if you read on its talking about Kings of the Earth and merchants weeping and
mourning over the great city being on fire and it talks about the ships not being able to go to the great city's port and
the sailors and traders were crying when they saw the smoke from far off. Then they say what city is like this great
city. They are sad because they got rich off this city of capitalism, this city that would buy from all over the world.
Now does any of this sound like the SDA church? NO WAY!!!! The SDA church doesn't have ports and not that
many people are getting rich off of her, maybe a few but not many at all. If our churches caught fire today and were
totally destroyed life would go on. By 1-2 weeks people would have forgotten all about our 15 secs of fame on the
news. Most people I talk to ask what church I go to and I reply the Seventh-Day Adventist church. Just about every
time they say whats that? Or if they don't say anything its because they don't want to be rude by not knowing what it
is. So NO, the world wouldn't be heart broken if the SDA church was burning.
Now what does the bible tell us what the future Babylon means. We all know that Babylon doesn't exist anymore. So
what is John's dream refer to when he says Babylon the great has fallen. Babylon means apostasy, confusion, and
rebellion. In the Bible you can find the definition in these texts. Gen. 10:8-10; 11:6-9; Rev. 18:2, 3; 17:1-5
Now we know Babylon means apostasy, confusion, and rebellion. Reread Revelation 18. Now does this sound like
the United States of America. The founding fathers founded America on religion. God started America to continue his
plans for the second coming of Jesus Christ and to get freedom for his people from the Catholic church so that the true
gospel could be spread quicker without persecution. God is mentioned everywhere on USA documents, our money,
our legal buildings, and our court rooms we swear on a bible, well we use to. Now we are making it legal for
homosexuals to get married, we are taking God out of the pledge allegiance. How many abominations do you think the
USA has done in our patient God's eyes. We are a Christian nation but now we are letting the small minority change
everything God has setup. Why do you think we are getting record breaking natural disasters. Satan has been given
more and more power over us as a warning sign to God's flock and to the world. It almost feels like the 4 angles
holding back the 4 corners of the Earth are starting to slip. The time of the end is right now. Soon we will see a
national Sunday law. Christians are going to get fed up with all the disasters and the stock market going down and
possibly crashing. The Christians of the world are going to take a step back and say OK, whats going on here? They
are going to realize what creeping compromise has done to them and how far away from God they have become.
Then the Catholic church is going to make a suggestion to make everyone go to church on one day so that God will fix
our problems. Since the majority go to church on Sunday then that will be the day that the law will fall under. Yes
their will be Seventh-Day Adventists that will agree with the situation or not agree but don't want to flee or break the
law so they will go along with it. Their will probably be whole SDA churches that will go along with it. But the church
as a whole will not bend knee to the catholics and the Sunday law. Also in vice versa some Catholics will see this law
for what it is with other fellow Sunday worshippers and for the first time they will keep Saturday the Sabbath holy.
My question to you is, If you leave the SDA church where will you go? Will you be like I was and just stay home and
hide from the problems? Will you go find another church that is an offshoot of the SDA church? The world isn't
perfect. You will never meet a perfect person on Earth. No matter where you go you will find corruption. The SDA
church is God's Remnant church. Yes it is Lukewarm and yes it is in danger of being spewed out of God's mouth.
But if you leave it to the corruption that is in her then you allow the devil to win. God lead me to the bible and in the
bible I found that in Exodus no matter how bad the Hebrews were Moses and Aaron did not flee from them to follow
God by themselves. No they stayed and battled the Devil head on. This is what we need to do. In a loving way we
must stay in the church and help remind her what she was founded on and point out all the creeping compromises that
are happening. We must expose the lies and stand up for God's church. I refuse to let God's remnant be railroaded by
a minority of people that have other things in mind for God's church. No where in the bible do you see leaders of God
leaving his people to the wolves. They stay and fight and endure God's punishments that he inflicts on the guilty. I
don't want to face God in the judgement day when he asks me why I ran away from the fight? Why did I leave his
small children to the wolves in sheep's clothes? I want to face him and be confident saying I did my best to fight for
you lord, I may have failed but I did all in my power to fight Satan with the Holy Ghost.
No greater delusion can deceive the human mind than that which
leads men to indulge a self-confident spirit, to believe that they
are right and in the light, when they are drawing away from
God's people, and their cherished light is darkness.
Testimony Treasures Volume 1, p. 109
leads men to indulge a self-confident spirit, to believe that they
are right and in the light, when they are drawing away from
God's people, and their cherished light is darkness.
Testimony Treasures Volume 1, p. 109
Their are sites out there right now that are very very sneaky. One got me fooled so badly that I stop going
to church so I could stay home and research these accusations against the Seventh-Day Adventist church. I
am sad to say some accusations I found were true. But others were easy to prove false but some were
very very hard to prove false. Such as this quote:
“As for the voice of the General Conference, there is no voice from God through that body that is reliable.” -
Manuscript 57, October 12, 1895 & Manuscript Releases, vol 17, p 178
He was so sincere so nice, but in this case his fruits look very good and this is what led me to believe him.
He was so sincere so nice, but his goal is to open the eyes of the Adventists so they will get out of Babylon
(SDA church). Also on his site he posted a document from the catholic church admitting they were trying to
infiltrate the SDA church to destroy it from the inside and to prove Ellen White was a false prophet. Well if
this is the case then why is this man helping the Catholic church by telling Adventists to run away and let the
Catholics have God's remnant church?
Any Kingdom, Organization, Church that is run by man will be susceptible to temptation. Just read the Old
Testament for proof. God's people fell over and over again. We had corrupt leaders in the bible. Great
King David made mistakes in his kingdom. He repented and he became a better king. Moses struck the
rock, threw the 1st set of commandments down. King Solomon got involved with other Gods. I could go on
and on. Our leaders are human, and they are tempted the same as the rest of us and they give in like we
do. Nobody is perfect in this world. All we can do is ask for forgiveness like King David did and accept the
punishment that goes with it, then become a better leader to make up for our past mistake. And if we don't
want the leaders in the church anymore lets vote in a better leader. Not one of us put into the conference
would be a perfect leader and not make mistakes. Life is a learning experience. We are always learning
threw mistakes all the way to death. If you are perfect then please, throw the first stone. Some people have
already thrown lots of stones. I'm guessing they must be perfect and not make mistakes. Which is why they
have run off and started their own version of Adventism. Beware of these confused/struggling/broken
Adventists. They are blind leading the blind and they will fall into a pit with the people they are leading if
they haven't already.
to church so I could stay home and research these accusations against the Seventh-Day Adventist church. I
am sad to say some accusations I found were true. But others were easy to prove false but some were
very very hard to prove false. Such as this quote:
“As for the voice of the General Conference, there is no voice from God through that body that is reliable.” -
Manuscript 57, October 12, 1895 & Manuscript Releases, vol 17, p 178
He was so sincere so nice, but in this case his fruits look very good and this is what led me to believe him.
He was so sincere so nice, but his goal is to open the eyes of the Adventists so they will get out of Babylon
(SDA church). Also on his site he posted a document from the catholic church admitting they were trying to
infiltrate the SDA church to destroy it from the inside and to prove Ellen White was a false prophet. Well if
this is the case then why is this man helping the Catholic church by telling Adventists to run away and let the
Catholics have God's remnant church?
Any Kingdom, Organization, Church that is run by man will be susceptible to temptation. Just read the Old
Testament for proof. God's people fell over and over again. We had corrupt leaders in the bible. Great
King David made mistakes in his kingdom. He repented and he became a better king. Moses struck the
rock, threw the 1st set of commandments down. King Solomon got involved with other Gods. I could go on
and on. Our leaders are human, and they are tempted the same as the rest of us and they give in like we
do. Nobody is perfect in this world. All we can do is ask for forgiveness like King David did and accept the
punishment that goes with it, then become a better leader to make up for our past mistake. And if we don't
want the leaders in the church anymore lets vote in a better leader. Not one of us put into the conference
would be a perfect leader and not make mistakes. Life is a learning experience. We are always learning
threw mistakes all the way to death. If you are perfect then please, throw the first stone. Some people have
already thrown lots of stones. I'm guessing they must be perfect and not make mistakes. Which is why they
have run off and started their own version of Adventism. Beware of these confused/struggling/broken
Adventists. They are blind leading the blind and they will fall into a pit with the people they are leading if
they haven't already.
| EXPLANATORY NOTE [THE OPINIONS IN THIS DOCUMENT WERE EXPRESSED BY ELLEN WHITE AT A TIME WHEN ONLY A SMALL GROUP REPRESENTED THE GENERAL CONFERENCE. AFTER THE GENERAL CONFERENCE WAS REORGANIZED IN 1901 TO PROVIDE BROAD REPRESENTATION, MRS. WHITE TOOK A DIFFERENT VIEW. AT THE 1909 GENERAL CONFERENCE SHE ENCOURAGED STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE GENERAL CONFERENCE. AT THAT SESSION SHE SAID: "AT TIMES, WHEN A SMALL GROUP OF MEN ENTRUSTED WITH THE GENERAL MANAGEMENT OF THE WORK HAVE, IN THE NAME OF THE GENERAL CONFERENCE, SOUGHT TO CARRY OUT UNWISE PLANS AND TO RESTRICT GOD'S WORK, I HAVE SAID THAT I COULD NO LONGER REGARD THE VOICE OF THE GENERAL CONFERENCE, REPRESENTED BY THESE FEW MEN, AS THE VOICE OF GOD. BUT THIS IS NOT SAYING THAT THE DECISIONS OF A GENERAL CONFERENCE COMPOSED OF AN ASSEMBLY OF DULY APPOINTED, REPRESENTATIVE MEN FROM ALL PARTS OF THE FIELD SHOULD NOT BE RESPECTED. GOD HAS ORDAINED THAT THE REPRESENTATIVES OF HIS CHURCH FROM ALL PARTS OF THE EARTH, WHEN ASSEMBLED IN A GENERAL CONFERENCE, SHALL HAVE AUTHORITY. . . . LET US GIVE TO THE HIGHEST ORGANIZED AUTHORITY IN THE CHURCH THAT WHICH WE ARE PRONE TO GIVE TO ONE MAN OR TO A SMALL GROUP OF MEN."--TESTIMONIES, VOL. 9, PP. 260, 261. SEE FURTHER THE EARLY ELMSHAVEN YEARS, BY A. L. WHITE, PP. 75-94, 108-110.] |
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The Church May Appear as About to Fall
The shaking of God blows away multitudes like dry leaves.--4T 89 (1876). {LDE 180.1}
Chaff like a cloud will be borne away on the wind, even from places where we see only floors of rich wheat.
--5T 81 (1882). {LDE 180.2}
Soon God’s people will be tested by fiery trials, and the great proportion of those who now appear to be
genuine and true will prove to be base metal. . . . {LDE 180.3}
When the religion of Christ is most held in contempt, when His law is most despised, then should our zeal be
the warmest and our courage and firmness the most unflinching. To stand in defense of truth and
righteousness when the majority forsake us, to fight the battles of the Lord when champions are few--this
will be our test. At this time we must gather warmth from the coldness of others, courage from their
cowardice, and loyalty from their treason.--5T 136 (1882). {LDE 180.4}
The church may appear as about to fall, but it does not fall. It remains, while the sinners in Zion will be
sifted out--the chaff separated from the precious wheat. This is a terrible ordeal, but nevertheless it must take
place.--2SM 380 (1886). {LDE 180.5}
As the storm approaches, a large class who have professed faith in the third angel’s message, but have
[BEGIN P.181] not been sanctified through obedience to the truth, abandon their position and join the ranks
of the opposition.--GC 608 (1911). {LDE 180.6}
The shaking of God blows away multitudes like dry leaves.--4T 89 (1876). {LDE 180.1}
Chaff like a cloud will be borne away on the wind, even from places where we see only floors of rich wheat.
--5T 81 (1882). {LDE 180.2}
Soon God’s people will be tested by fiery trials, and the great proportion of those who now appear to be
genuine and true will prove to be base metal. . . . {LDE 180.3}
When the religion of Christ is most held in contempt, when His law is most despised, then should our zeal be
the warmest and our courage and firmness the most unflinching. To stand in defense of truth and
righteousness when the majority forsake us, to fight the battles of the Lord when champions are few--this
will be our test. At this time we must gather warmth from the coldness of others, courage from their
cowardice, and loyalty from their treason.--5T 136 (1882). {LDE 180.4}
The church may appear as about to fall, but it does not fall. It remains, while the sinners in Zion will be
sifted out--the chaff separated from the precious wheat. This is a terrible ordeal, but nevertheless it must take
place.--2SM 380 (1886). {LDE 180.5}
As the storm approaches, a large class who have professed faith in the third angel’s message, but have
[BEGIN P.181] not been sanctified through obedience to the truth, abandon their position and join the ranks
of the opposition.--GC 608 (1911). {LDE 180.6}
Defections Among Church Leaders
Many a star that we have admired for its brilliance will then go out in darkness.--PK 188 (c. 1914). {LDE
178.3}
Men whom He has greatly honored will, in the closing scenes of this earth’s history, pattern after ancient
Israel. . . . A departure from the great principles Christ has laid down in His teachings, a working out of
human projects, using the Scriptures to [BEGIN P.179] justify a wrong course of action under the perverse
working of Lucifer, will confirm men in misunderstanding, and the truth that they need to keep them from
wrong practices will leak out of the soul like water from a leaky vessel.--13MR 379, 381 (1904). {LDE
178.4}
Many will show that they are not one with Christ, that they are not dead to the world, that they may live with
Him; and frequent will be the apostasies of men who have occupied responsible positions.--RH Sept. 11,
1888. {LDE 179.1}
I saw that God’s people are on the enchanted ground, and that some have lost nearly all sense of the
shortness of time and the worth of the soul. Pride has crept in among Sabbathkeepers-pride of dress and
appearance. Said the angel, "Sabbathkeepers will have to die to self, die to pride and love of approbation."
{EW 120.1}
Many a star that we have admired for its brilliance will then go out in darkness.--PK 188 (c. 1914). {LDE
178.3}
Men whom He has greatly honored will, in the closing scenes of this earth’s history, pattern after ancient
Israel. . . . A departure from the great principles Christ has laid down in His teachings, a working out of
human projects, using the Scriptures to [BEGIN P.179] justify a wrong course of action under the perverse
working of Lucifer, will confirm men in misunderstanding, and the truth that they need to keep them from
wrong practices will leak out of the soul like water from a leaky vessel.--13MR 379, 381 (1904). {LDE
178.4}
Many will show that they are not one with Christ, that they are not dead to the world, that they may live with
Him; and frequent will be the apostasies of men who have occupied responsible positions.--RH Sept. 11,
1888. {LDE 179.1}
I saw that God’s people are on the enchanted ground, and that some have lost nearly all sense of the
shortness of time and the worth of the soul. Pride has crept in among Sabbathkeepers-pride of dress and
appearance. Said the angel, "Sabbathkeepers will have to die to self, die to pride and love of approbation."
{EW 120.1}
The Second Angel Proclaims: And there followed another
angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she
made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornications.
Revelation 14:8
angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she
made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornications.
Revelation 14:8
"I know and am sure that the Papacy is the
kingdom of Babylon." -Martin Luther
kingdom of Babylon." -Martin Luther
A papal medal struck at Rome in 1825 depicted the Church
of Rome as a woman holding out a golden cup (see
Revelation 17:1-5). The medal bore these words in Latin:
The Whole World is Her Seat. Commenting on this, Albert
Barnes (Presbyterian minister) wrote: "It is a most
remarkable fact that the papacy, as if designing to furnish a
fulfillment of this prophecy, has chosen to represent itself in
almost precisely the same manner." In Facts of the Times, p. 70,
edited by George Butler, 1885
of Rome as a woman holding out a golden cup (see
Revelation 17:1-5). The medal bore these words in Latin:
The Whole World is Her Seat. Commenting on this, Albert
Barnes (Presbyterian minister) wrote: "It is a most
remarkable fact that the papacy, as if designing to furnish a
fulfillment of this prophecy, has chosen to represent itself in
almost precisely the same manner." In Facts of the Times, p. 70,
edited by George Butler, 1885
"Read this wonderful prophecy concerning 'Babylon the
Great' in the clear, all-revealing light of history. I ask those
of you who have read the history of the last eighteen
centuries, did not Christian Rome become a harlot? Did not
papal Rome ally itself with the kings of the earth? Did it not
glorify itself to be as a queen, and call itself the mistress of
the world?" -H. Grattan Guinness, D.D, Romanism and the
Reformation, p. 99, London: Nisbet & Co., 1891.
Great' in the clear, all-revealing light of history. I ask those
of you who have read the history of the last eighteen
centuries, did not Christian Rome become a harlot? Did not
papal Rome ally itself with the kings of the earth? Did it not
glorify itself to be as a queen, and call itself the mistress of
the world?" -H. Grattan Guinness, D.D, Romanism and the
Reformation, p. 99, London: Nisbet & Co., 1891.
noonday... while we read the inscription, emblazoned in large
letters, Mystery, Babylon the Great,' written by the hand of
St. John, guided by the Holy Spirit of God, on the forehead
of the Church of Rome." -Christopher Wordsworth, D.D. (Anglican),
Union with Rome, p. 63, Longman's and Green, 1909.
letters, Mystery, Babylon the Great,' written by the hand of
St. John, guided by the Holy Spirit of God, on the forehead
of the Church of Rome." -Christopher Wordsworth, D.D. (Anglican),
Union with Rome, p. 63, Longman's and Green, 1909.
"I tell you, my brethren, the Lord has an organized body
through whom He will work. ... When anyone is drawing apart
from the organized body of God's commandment-keeping
people, when he begins to weigh the church in his human
scales and begins to pronounce judgment against them, then
you may know that God is not leading him. He is on the
wrong track." (Selected Messages, Vol. 3, pp. 17, 18.)
through whom He will work. ... When anyone is drawing apart
from the organized body of God's commandment-keeping
people, when he begins to weigh the church in his human
scales and begins to pronounce judgment against them, then
you may know that God is not leading him. He is on the
wrong track." (Selected Messages, Vol. 3, pp. 17, 18.)
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